You Are Human First... An interview with Polish violinist, Mariusz Patyra
Sunday, October 19, 2008, 5:00PM Roswell Cultural Arts Center www.chopinatlanta.org
by Bożena U. Zaremba
When people talk about the violin, the word "virtuoso"
is often used, probably more often than with any other instrument. Why, in your
opinion? Mainly because many people associate the
violin with Niccolo Paganini, a phenomenon who really started a new era. It was
a revolution. Techniques like pizzicato, staccato or double flageolets, which we
owe to Paganini, had been unheard of before him. At that point our understanding
of virtuosity came into new light.
In your interpretations one can hear incredible
technical skill but no flashiness, while in romantic pieces, there is great
emotion but no sentimentality. Is this balance between technical prowess and
expression intentional? I am really proud that you think this way. I had to
work hard to achieve this sound. Being very self-critical, I have always been
raising the bar higher and higher. I owe this to my mom, who had never let me
skip a note till I was 19. At the age of fifteen I was able to take on pieces
with the highest degree of virtuosity. I worked on my technical skill for many
years, but life experience has had a significant influence on the expression in
my interpretations.
Did this process affect the way you play Paganini? The difficulty of interpreting Paganini's music lies
in the understanding of his fundamental approach to music. Paganini did not aim
for virtuosity, strange as it may seem. If you want to play Paganini well, you
need to remember that he loved opera bel canto. My mom always stressed that his
music conveyed the beauty with the highest degree of virtuosity. As long as I
can discover and admire this beauty, I will be able to understand Paganini's
music and its message. Additional difficulty lies in making it sound as if it
were light and easy.
During your U.S. concert tour you will be playing nocturnes by Chopin, who is
associated practically only with the piano. Chopin on violin? Sounds like
blasphemy [laughs]. Chopin's music has found its place in the program to honor the Chopin
Society's mission. In my opinion, Chopin should of course be played only on the
piano. Transcriptions can be dangerous, but if you understand the soul of the
composer's music, you can show its genius, even on a different instrument. And
this is what I am trying to accomplish.
Which is not easy since everyone has his or her own theory about how Chopin
should be played. Art is immeasurable. There is no one method, a golden key to playing his
music. After all, who truly knows how to play Chopin? The world only knows the
most famous renditions of the greatest pianists. Nobody has ever heard Chopin
play. We can only imagine his intentions, especially that the music itself –
through its dynamics, phrasing – suggests the character of the piece.
Talking about the dynamics, you have an incredible piano, which is so
difficult to play. I have to admit that piano is one of my fortes [laughs]. Anybody can play
loud and fast.
Giovanni Casella is your regular accompanist. What do you appreciate in him
most? Giovanni is extremely alert. I have never felt more comfortable with any
accompanist. We have known each other for years and understand each other
without words. We work in a very similar way, too. We have reached the point
when hours of practicing together are not necessary. Before the concert, the
musician needs to rest and accumulate energy.
Let's talk about the Paganini Competition, which you won in 2001. Winning
such a prestigious competition usually opens the doors to famous concert halls
and recording studios. Did this happen with you? Times have changed. A competition gives you a chance, gives you an
interesting biography entry, but does not guarantee anything. Fifteen or twenty
years ago, only a few violinists would enter a competition, so sometimes there
were more prizes than participants. Today there are millions of great violinists
and there are around 300 competitions each year. That is, in my opinion, far too
many. Besides, the participants are judged not by soloists but teachers, who
have not held an instrument in their hands for twenty or thirty years. Let me
give you an example: In times when the famous Vadim Repin won the Queen
Elizabeth Competition in Brussels, the jury included such artists as David
Oistrakh, Henryk Szeryng, Ruggiero Ricci and Ida Haendel. Each one knew exactly
what it means to perform in front of the audience and how to cope with the
adrenaline, but most of all, each one could go up on the stage and play any
musical piece from the competition's repertoire – something that is so rare
nowadays. It is easy to judge, to criticize, but to step on the stage and
electrify the audience – only few can do this.
Why was this competition so important then?
The Paganini Competition is legendary, and not every violinist can bear its
pressure. I am very proud of this award, especially that I am the only Polish
violinist who has won this competition, though many have tried. I had dreamt of
winning this competition since my school years.
Which violinist do you consider to be your mentor? There are many. I have always been a great admirer of
the old violinist school. The first artist I would bring up is Michael Rabin,
who played with a most beautiful, substantial sound, and with such an inhuman
force. Then there is Josef Hassid, who died tragically so young. Someone said (I
cannot remember who) that a great violinist comes around every 100 years, a
Hassid every 200. Hassid played with so much passion and so much maturity,
unusual for a young man. Of course, Jascha Heifetz has always been for me, just
as for most violinists, a great example to follow. He was phenomenal. I learned
timing from Henryk Szeryng. I must also mention Itzhak Perlman, whom I have
always admired for his melancholy. When I think about the difference between the
old and the new generation of violinists, I realize that the old ones could be
instantly recognized after just few first notes, and now….?
What is the significance of the kind of the instrument
you play? None, really. There are two names associated with the
violin that every violinist dreams of, i.e., Giuseppe Guarneri del Gesu and
Antonio Stradivari. Why not dream? But even those instruments will not play by
themselves. You need the soul and skillful hands.
You are a great fishing enthusiast. Where does this
interest come from? From my childhood. I remember summer nights that I
spent with my older brother fishing. It was only a year ago that I returned to
this hobby. And now I can even say that fishing takes as much of my time as
music. I even have a double case, which instead of the second instrument can
hold a folding fishing rod and small accessories necessary for spin fishing. Of
course, not always is this possible.
What else nourishes your musical imagination? The surrounding world and the path I follow. Every experience in my life has
changed something in me, and thanks to that my music is more "saturated."
Someone once told me, "Mariusz, remember that you are human first, then you are
a man, and only in the third place, an artist. If you are not 'clean' as a human
being, you will never play clean."